#15

agreed, in spades. “Deep neural network…”? No. the name is meant to rhyme with Artificial Intelligence. the marketers are trying to pile on to the latest buzz words. And make folks believe in magic; i.e. these aids are like having a new set of biological ears ‘with intelligence’.

The rest jsut sounds like more design upgrades, as we always see.

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#16

My current MFi aids do that without LE Audio.

#17

You don’t always see a new processor.

  • new Chip → Neuro (6x more transistors, 4x faster than previous processors, uses less power, 5x more RAM memory, 10x storage memory)
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#18

Correct, and I think some ASHA HAs do the same, but off the top of my head, I’m not aware of any that use LE to do handsfree calling and binaural streaming to both Apple and Android devices.

ETA: Just doing a quick search, Phonak is the only one I could find that currently offers handsfree calling on both Android and Apple, and that’s through Classic, not LE.

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#19

perhaps I’m being too cynical. Does all that processing help folks hear better? As for streaming and connectivity…I’m good with what I have. I guess I feel that the limits to how much better any of will hear with HA’s lies on our side; that is, if we have nerve degradation or conductive loss, CAN more processing result in a leap forward in how we hear? I actually don’t know, but I doubt it. Wait, perhaps this can give better discrimination of voices in noise and things like that. I admit that my loss isn’t so bad that this is an issue for me, but it certainly is for others. So good on Starkey if that’s the case, and I’ll eat crow, or anyway squab.

#20

No you don’t have to eat crow or anything unsavory. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But digital hearing aids technology has advanced in the past decade or so. You are not denying that, are you? For me the digital technology advancements (over time) seems undeniable. And, one of the biggest driver for technology advancements is new/better/faster processors.

It take a lot of effort to install a new processor and then write new firmware and new fitting software to take advantage of the extra power/size/memory etc. So we should give credit where credit is due is all I’m saying. Also, the manufacturers don’t release everything in one fell swoop. Other advancements using the new processor are likely planned for the future.

Installing a new processor is much better than dressing up the previous platform in new cases, and then trotting that out as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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#21

No one . . . no one. . .

#23

I have to agree with this, having “all new” is better then reinventing the wheel, but we’ve all been down this road so many times over the years, I’m definitely hoping it’s all game changing…but I’m not gonna hold my breath

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#24

A little off topic but I have been listening to more and more music videos with CI.

Funny how speech is pretty clear and some music is pretty good. I actually listen to music from many years ago and now understand the words!
The percussions are good and most of the guitars are pretty good.

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#25

The previous generation was released in 2021. I have just bought Starkey aids several months ago and now they are obsolete! :frowning: Wow, that was so quick! At least I am consoled that there is no Power BTE version of Genesis available yet.

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#26

Of course! Someone should get in touch with Phil Collins and get his opinion.

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#27

I see a couple of digs at Phonak and their A2DP Bluetooth streaming. “Bluetooth LE Protocol” for the audio streaming annoys the hell out of me. There’s no such audio protocol as “Bluetooth LE”. I’m pretty sure they’re not talking about LE Audio.

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#28

I try to keep track of “platforms”;

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#29

Is it already known up to what kind of loss RICs are really suitable?

Could they also be suitable for severe/deep leaks like mine, or do I have to think about a BTE?

#30

Welcome to the forum, looking at your audiogram I’d think your only going to get a better result with a powerful BTE, what are you using at the moment?

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#31

Bluetooth.com indicated BT 5.2 for the Genesis same as the Evolv. Launch Studio - Listing Details (bluetooth.com)

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#32

Thanks for the welcome, but I’ve actually been on the forum since August 2020. :grinning:

I currently have P90s

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#33

Thank you for the update. Appreciate that you keep us up to date.
AI… That shiny re-hyped thing we all want.
We use AI with our surveillance camera software. Not sure how it works in HA’s.

#34

Could you provide the source of the Signia info?

#35

In the presentation I don’t see the BTEs: so these RICs are as powerful as the BTEs? Or are they not interested in severe/profound deafness?