Phonak users who DON'T use autosense

Hearing Aids
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@Don
You might be referring to the Autoswitching between ‘modes’ rather than your programmes.

As standard, if you come within range of your TV Connector, or your Roger device, your HAs will automatically switch to them. The other options are: 1) Manual - You won’t hear a notification, but it will appear in the app, and you can scroll through with the button to enable.
2) Manual plus beep - You’ll hear a 2-tone beep when it’s available for connection. You can then select as above.

Bluetooth can’t be changed, it’s always automatic. So, I only have ‘calls’ enabled. I switch ‘audeo’ on manually in Bluetooth if I want to stream.

For the TV Connector to work in this manner, you have to add it as a device in target (no physical pairing, or entering of serial numbers needed).

Peter

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It appears that Autosense and other programs are not matching your audiogram. Your audiologist can do a “recalculate” and take the option to include all programs and fine tuning. That should get you pretty close but they will have to re-adjust Sound Recover, if you use that. If you need adjustments to the overall volume for Autosense, it can/should be done as a group. You can make adjustments to individual components in Autosense but i would be very careful about volume changes and would limit changes to just the features that define that component/program. For example, i have Noiseblock on Speech in noise set higher than Noiseblock on the Calm program.

All the Autosense program volumes should sound about the same.

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143

I just looked to verify, and you can turn off alerts for manual program changes. In Target it is on the Fitting tab, Device Options tab, then Signals and Alerts.

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Finally got it sorted out last week. Got the doc to turn off ALL notifications. The only thing I hear now is startup jingle and volume jingle if changing the volume manually.

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I guess I’m one of the lucky ones. I wear M 90 Rs, but in my case I think that stands for “RONCO”. (I just set 'em and forget 'em!)

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I couldn’t figure out how to disable autosense so I copied the calm situation settings to the other auto programs via the Target app. Very satisfied with the outcome. L90-RTs.

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Glad it works well. For reference:
Add an Additional Programme (Music or Calm Situation perhaps)

An empty box should appear next to the new programme, where you can select it as “Startup”. Once that is selected, you can “un-check” the ACCESS button on Autosense.

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Hope this helps. I do have Autosense as an option now, but not as startup, and Autoswitching has been changed to Manual plus beep
Cheers

Peter

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@PeterH

I turned off AutoSense yesterday and have Speech in Noise as my default program but have changed the Mic to Real Ear Sound instead of UltraZoom. I can now hear the announcement on the buses saying we are at this stop etc. I was very surprised as I’ve never heard it before.

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You’ve essentially just boosted the highs and decreased the lows.

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I’d have thought it’s taking away beamforming. Either way, if it works, all good

Peter

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Using instead of autosense, the auto car program doesn’t usually beamform, but certainly that is being disabled too.

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I see the elements of Autosense, and some are very similar, such as: Speech in Noise; Comfort in Echo; Speech in Car.

They are not “AI” in any sense. They are algorithms that sometimes work, but very often don’t.

Peter

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I’m not sure who you are responding to? No they are not AI. They were trained with machine learning strategies, but they themselves are not AI.

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@Neville

Speech in noise increased between 1K and 3K when I checked, compared to Calm program.

@PeterH

Yes I’m liking being able to hear all around me. Didn’t realise how much I was missing.

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@DaveL has phonak by now, issued update for P series users to Autosense 5.0. I want to know if i should take my HA to my Audi to get the upgrade. Pls answer

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AutoSense doesn’t get updates. You have to buy the latest one to get the latest AutoSense.

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I hate hearing aids telling me what program they think I should be listening to. My approach with my audiologist with Phonak was to create 2 main programs. an every day program which tended to be based on the Music settings since it sounded the most natural, and a Spheric program which is designed to take away as much background noise as possible.
He was able to remove autosense completely so that when the aids start up, they go directly to the Music program. I did create a couple of other customised ones, but simply used the buttons on the HA’s to change between these.

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Exactly what I do, except I haven’t got the Sphere, I just use a customised Speech in noise. It isn’t perfect, but better than Autosense turning music down when I want to hear it :slight_smile:

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