First, I do not really have those connectivity issues with LE Audio turned off but I guess you know that. I have had it on myself for 24 hours except when I had to switch it off temporarily for a phone call.

For improving sound I had my HCP so the following for me:

For streaming there is a Streaming Bass Boost switch in the accessories section of the fitting software. Increase that from the Mild default.

For my Music program I had the default bass increased across the 125hz - 750hz frequency range.

For both I switched to closed domes from open domes. Almost all bass leaks out of those slots. Not everyone is okay with the extra occlusion. The default is often open domes because music is not the top priority for most HA users, but it sure helps streaming

Think of earbuds, they all try to have a good seal on them for enhanced bass. The cool ones have speakers on the outside to transmit sound to the receivers speakers) on the inside. My Jabra earbuds called it Hearthrough mode.

I later switched to the M&RIE Receivers which have an extra microphone in the receiver. It tries to take sound from the pinna of the ear. They do not work for everyone but for me they’ve been a wonderful addition to my EP 20s. With them I now have power domes, which increases the occlusion effect… and the bass response.

Besides all that, I think my HCP gave me a good fitting. He knew sound was a priority for me.

I initially had a lot of tinny bassless audio as well. This all helped together. I got this information from reading numerous posts on this forum.

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I already have power domes and the marie receiver, but I now know the streaming changes to ask for. Thanks! I had the batteries updated on my KS10s and they are working great. I will ask my audi to change the streaming bass and add “adaptive speech” to the programs. They are working so well now that I may return the Jabras if they and Samsung can’t solve the connection and hands free phone issues.

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I saw my audiologist today and the streaming setting was already at max bass boost. Ah well. Thanks again. Lew

Interesting since you ignored in the end the most optimal for your music needs - Nexia, which has BT, LE plus Auracast. With other words everything Oticon has and plus with better music program? And the battery life is at least very good for Nexia for up to 36 h if you do not use all battery consuming features all the time.

It was a tough choice. The Intents have BT LE, I am not bothered about Auracast because it will be a long time before any venues in the UK have it (and tbh I do not go to cinemas or concerts much these days). If I could not have got the music program on the Intents sorted out, I would have gone with the Nexias. However, the SIN with the Intents is definitely better for me than the ReSounds, so that was quite a big plus.

Another thing I didn’t like initially about the Intents was the Companion app, which is pretty inflexible compared to the ReSound app. With my 3Ds, I created a slew of custom programs and was forever fiddling with the settings to try to optimise my hearing in particular situations. However, I have found the automatic adaptability of the General program on the Intents to be pretty good for most situations and I haven’t felt the need to create lots of custom programs like I did with the ReSound app. So I find them easier to use on a day to day basis compared to my Linx 3Ds, as I do less program changing.

I’ll add that battery life for the Nexias was not good for me, I got two low battery warnings over my test period, none with the Intents.

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I suppose, I am most fortunate, to have such an excellent Audiologist… Over the years, this wasn’t always so, especially with the NHS, it was more a case of you adapting to the aids, as opposed to the aids being adjusted to you, you just didn’t get follow up appointments! There are without doubt many brilliant Audiologists working with the NHS, they just don’t have the necessary time, to get a good fit… Last November, I purchased a set of Phonak Naida Lumity 90 BTE UP’s from Boots Hearing Care, here in the UK, I have worked with the same private Audiologist for over 5 years, she knows my Severe/Profound loss inside out, but she is a keyboard wizard, adjustments are made at breakneck speed and her first fit, was my last fit, 6 months ago… My A.uD did a very comprehensive hearing test 3 weeks in advance of the new aid’s arrival, I say comprehensive, because it was probably twice as long as a normal test… When I arrived, the Lumity UP’s where set up, so she ran feedback management, asked what did I think, I asked her to switch to NAL NL2, and turn on compression, no REM was done, and that was it, bingo, no further adjustments were needed, we where good to go :smile: In subsequent follow up visits, I was asked, but no further adjustments where deemed necessary, and none requested by yours truly… Now, I do have Target, and Noahlink Wireless, but I haven’t felt the urge to tweak the Lumity UP’s, as I feel they are set up perfect for my needs, or perhaps as close as I am going to get? One thing of note/interest, she said, she had noticed, after first fit, not very many clients requested additional adjustments with Lumity aids, in fact, I believe she said, she was really surprised how little adjustments were required! My personal take would be, she is an extremely skilled Audiologist, totally dedicated to her clients, and these factors alone, means very little needs altering! Cheers Kev :smile:

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My Jabra Select 200 aids have bad music quality, but the music setting on my Oticon Real aids provides a beautiful sound, including streaming.

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Actually, the problem is Oticon invented a completely unique fitting formula for MyMusic.
That is why it is so very unforgiving, as it’s limited in fine tuning to stay within the constaints of the overall Harman Target.
By creating a custom :musical_keyboard: :saxophone: :trumpet: :guitar: program with DSLv5, we can tweak to our hearts content!!

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To support Auracast, the basic requirement is BT LE Audio. So even if the Intent doesn’t support Auracast now, as long as it has BT LE Audio support, which it does, it should just be a firmware upgrade away from providing Auracast support in the future.

Welcome, and thanks for the comparison. I’m very interested in the Intents now, but they weren’t around when I trialed Lumity, More, and Moments a year ago.

IME back then, listening to music neither of the More or Lumity came close to the Moments. I think you were steered away from them too quickly. Not saying the Moments’ musical benefits would outweigh your choices for Intents, their speech targeting abilities.

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I am using iPhone 15. My children asked me fix the microphone. The iPhone has the option to switch from using the HA microphone to the microphone in the iPhone. Now the audio is perfect, they say.
The iPhone default setting is to use the HA microphone. I am wearing the iPhone in a breast pocket with the microphone upwards.
In my opinion it is a bad idea to use a bad microphone behind the ears. When one have a good microphone in the mobile phone.

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Thanks, I’;ll look into this and see if I can try this on the Intents.

how exactly did you do this? do you know if this also works with the iphone SE 2022? I have oticon reals and would like to turn off the handsfree function, that is I would like to use the iphone microphone instead of the hearing aid microphones for phone calls (but still hear the sound in my hearing aids). kind regards, oliver

I have forgot how i did. Better google.
One start with settings. Then Hearing aid. Under MFI Hearing aids I tripple click the side button. Here I find Microphone input. Default setting is On. Switch it to Off.

Found it - thank you!

I’ve had my Resound Omnia 9’s (very similar to the Nexia) for almost a year now and find them to be very comfortable. They have great speech recognition as well. Though it took me a couple of months of self programming to get them right.

The main reason that I chose Resound is that they still offer aids that use disposable batteries.

I get nine to ten days on 312 batteries. Rechargeable aids to me seem like more trouble than it’s worth. And those rechargeable batteries lose a little bit of capacity every time you recharge them.

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I was very wary of rechargeables as my neighbour got some about 18 months ago and had nothing but trouble. My audi convinced me to try them and the Oticon Intents are fantastic and I wouldn’t go back to batteries now.

Same here. So impressed with the battery life of the Intents and it’s refreshing not having to change the batteries every 2 days.

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Like I said above, I get nine to ten days out of set of 312 batteries. Either change the batteries every week or so, or fiddle with a charger every day or so.

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@william50 → that’s pretty phenomenal to get 9 to 10 days out of a set of 312 batteries for modern hearing aids nowadays. How much do you stream with them?

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