I have Oticon Dynamo now. No feedback issues in normal conditions. They whistle only if I cup my ears with hands.
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No feedback issues from my Oticon Dynamo’s either. But I am curious about the exceeds. Hopefully someone who tries them can leave us a review.
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same. I CAN’T WAIT TRY THOSE HEARING AIDS SOON! 
thank god there’s always after my birthday
Tried researching the Xceed. If I am reading this correctly, they come in 3 levels.
Exceed 1 being top of the line with the 360 degree platform. Exceed 2, with some differences but with the 360 degree platform, and then Exceed 3 which will not have the 360 degree open platform.
Makes me wonder if the Exceed 3 is a updated version of the Dynamo complete with the Velox S.
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Thanks everyone.
I will still see my audio/specialist and ask about the new Phonaks but I may still trial the new Oticon Exceeds depending on the “Terms and Conditions” attached.
Laura, I don’t have any experience of the “Dynamos”, I once tried Oticon’s “Sumo” model a lot of years ago and didn’t hear very well with them. This is why I have reservations about these new Xceed’s.
yep, they’re like an updated version with the same features as the Opns
No idea, I’m not that techy.
My friend in the UK as well, went from wearing Phonak’s all her life to trying Oticon. She had wished, she tried Oticon years ago as she finds she can hear the high frequencies a lot better. She is also profoundly deaf.
Timing is everything when trying to purchase new hearing aids with best technology possible, With that said I’ve not read anything about a certain “date” Phonak will come out with a Naida Up. Sure we can speculate but no one knows when the Phonak Marvel Naida Up will go live. Three months, six months, year plus - who knows.
That’s true. My audiologist is hoping for a Spring release. I am going to buy used Naida UP aids in December then try out the xceed and naida marvel aids next year.
hi
That’s interesting, what your friend reports. I once tried Oticon Sumo years ago, but didn’t really like them. Which Oticon aids does your friend wear?
She got it on the NHS so believe it’s the Dynamo. She was wearing the Naida S V UP.
For almost a month now I have been trying the Oticon Xceed. The aid I had before were the Dynamo. The Dynamo were beginning to get feed back issues and didn’t seem to have enough clarity for me. The pair of Xceeds do not have feedback issues even when I cup my ears, I am hoping they stay that way. At this time I am very please with the sound. For the first time I am able to listen to TV and I am trying to learn how to use the extra mic that the iPhone gives me. At this time I am trying to understand how to use the iPhone with them. Sure wish there was others that could guide me. Maybe in time.
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GLI, Could you post your audiogram please.
There may be people here that can help you with your iPhone. The Oticon OPN uses the iPhone. So maybe they can help.
Thanx,
Laura
you had me on no feedback issues! (I got that issue which is common with alot of earwax lol)
A short review of the Xceed models from my first impressions looking closer at it.
The Xceed is the successor of the Oticon Dynamo.
Since UP or SP BTE are not the high sellers compared to medium to power performance instruments, the hearing aid manufacturers usually develop the hardware of such a form factor only once for a chip platform. Probably with some FW upgrades later or improvements, but in principle we can expect such a new product only every 6-8 years. (Dynamo was a hardware redesign from Chili which was launched in 2010, Dynamo in 2015 (?).
Looking at the Oticon Xceed UP data, we can see that this BTE has the highest gain performance in the market, which is also shouted out loud by marketing. There is always a dB-race in the industry, pushing the physical limits further and further. Highest gain has always the highest risk for instability and feedback of course.
As far as I know both Xceed models are the first BTE UP-675 and SP-13 using MEMS microphones in the market (and probably the first launched MEMS product for Oticon at all). Meanwhile MEMS microphones are the industry standard.
I had already a deeper look and there are three interesting factors for the Xceeds to push the gain so extremely high and still keep the tendency of feedback under control:
- MEMS mics. They have a lower vibration sensitivity than classical ECM microphones.
- Oticon’s improved feedback canceller algorithm, introduced with the OPN-S family.
- A very special and innovative symmetric microphone inlet design. It has been designed very clever: when the air is stimulated by vibration, the mass of the air in the sound inlet counteracts the mass of the microphone membrane. Unwanted vibrations and the tendency to feedback will be acoustically (=mechanically) nearly cancelled out.
It looks like this design has one disadvantage: it makes the space requirements of the inlet large in a way, that it will not be suitable for smaller BTE or other form factors, but that’s not relevant for them anyway.
As I’ve said, an UP-675 will not be a high seller but the Xceed models are in the moment one of the most innovative and interesting products in its class.
‘We break the laws of physics’ (says Oticon marketing).
If this is true, this would lead to a fail! What you can do is to define new physical limits. (As an engineer I am naturally in conflict with marketing) 
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“davewg” posted three days ago that the Xceed uses a size 13 battery. So it has to be one or the other (size 13 or 675)? Personally (for power aids I think the 675 is better) especially if you stream a lot.
Agree to a point. Many times feedback is due to a poor HA ear mold that does not fit ear canal properly. Many times just talking, chewing, moving jaw, yawning, etc, creates feedback. But other times it could be due to the HA volume “setting” being maxed out or turned too high. One would assume if a HA manufacturer making a power aid - would insure HA itself would not create feedback in any volume setting.
It appears at this early juncture we are just getting reports on what the Oticon Xceed is “suggested to do” versus user feedback after trialing HA a few weeks. What will be interested to see play out is that the Oticon Xceed “first to market” (power aid) might put pressure on Phonak, Widex and others to come with their respective power aids sooner versus later.
The exceed SP takes 13 batteries and the exceed UP takes 675 batteries.
Great - thanks. With so many hearing aids going the rechargeable battery route its nice to know some manufacturers are still offering size 675 battery. I’ve also been waiting for Widex to come out with their so called “energy cell” technology but the company appears to be delaying that feature for some reason. Widex was supposed to come out with new energy cell this summer. Then this fall. I’m extremely leery being first in line with “radical new HA changes” since you don’t have a track record of dependability/durability. Yea I know there is a warranty but no one wants to make multiple trips back and forth to have continued repair work done.
…adding my two cents to UP hearing aids and the trend to rechargeabiligy in the market:
I think at least the SilverZinc rechargeable solution would be easy to implement if there is a demand for a rechargeable 675-size hearing aid. There are disadvantages and the trend in the market goes to LiIon cells and here I expect a few years longer time for the hearing aid industry to launch such a product.
An UP is a hearing aid where size hasn’t priority over performance. In such a case I can imagine that a 675 form factor can be replaced by a rectangular and more efficient LiIon cell.
I don’t expect this will happen in the next 3-5 years. For the manufacturers the UP BTE market is much less lucrative than the mid range performance hearing aids, which are produced in very high volumes.