#28

Michael,
Thanks for the tip. I did 3-clicks on the right side button of my iPhone 11 and got Hearing Devices. Now I just have to experiment with using it instead of the On App to see which is preferable. I assume Microphone level is volume. Left & Right presets are the 3 programs and TV adapter; Live listening and background sounds…I have to try those.
Joe

#29

I expect there are lots of us who just live with the issue(s). I have an iPhone 12 mini with iOS 15.3 (current). Issues were there with earlier versions of iOS. I have OPN S 1 aids with firmware 8.0 according to the ON app (version 2.5.0). Genie doesn’t show a firmware update for either the aids or my TV Adapter 3.0. My TV adapter is connected to the TV using the digital optical input (fiber). The optical output from the Adapter runs to a Sonos sound bar but I mute the sound bar if I’m watching TV by myself.

In my case, if the ON app is disconnected from one or both aids when streaming from the TV Adapter, the MFI control panel shows the same problem (either one or neither aid connected). If one aid is connected, the MFI control panel selection of a different source (program or TV Adapter) switches the single connected aid instead of both. The ON app does the same thing.

I have found that shutting down the phone (power off) and restarting it daily reduces but does not prevent the issue. If I have a disconnect, powering off the disconnected aid (easy as my aids are not rechargeable) and rebooting it usually, but not always, fixes the bluetooth connection to the iPhone as shown by either the MFI control or the ON app. Sometimes killing off the ON app and anything else that might use bluetooth and then restarting the ON app works. When all else fails, I also power off the phone and then restart it (the 12 is fairly quick compared to older phones).

I live in a town house that shares a single wall but there are LOTS of wifi signals around (an app called iStumbler running on an iMac Pro with macOS 12.2 shows 28 WiFi networks early this morning with about 1/2 in the 2.5 GHz band and the rest at 5 GHz. I typically have 14 devices connected to my 802.11ax (WiFi 6) router and most are WiFi as only 3 use ethernet to the router. Two iPhones, two iPads, two computers, a thermostat, three smoke/CO2 detectors, and so on use WiFi for a network connection. So there may be interference but I don’t seem to have interference if I use a ConnectClip (with current firmware) to connect my aids to my computer. I do have to use a BTD 800 bluetooth dongle (shows as an audio adapter) in the iMac Pro to make that connection reliable.

I have not tried using the TV adapter with my iPad to run ON with aids connected to the iPad rather than my iPhone so I guess I should try that to see if it works differently than my iPhone as Chuck has found.

Frustrating that Oticon and Apple don’t seem to be interested in fixing the problem(s). That said, we have had all sorts of issues with some Bluetooth connected instruments at work (and in the field) so my take is that Bluetooth is NOT yet a reliable method for instrument or device control. I certainly don’t know enough to decide who is at fault but I suspect both the Bluetooth chipsets and programming have too many bugs to work reliably in complicated environments.

Stuart

#30

I agree the only real use for me is the enabling of the MoreSoundBoost.

#31

Aside from app issues, I tried the Oticon Connect for TV and there was just enough delay with the lips moving on the screen to confuse me even more. I still use captions.

#32

I think most likely the latency you’re hearing between the lip movement and when you hear in the aids is due to the TV-to-Bluetooth latency from the TV, and not any latency from the ConnectClip to your aids. I say this because I don’t hear anybody (myself included) complain that there’s any noticeable latency between the ConnectClip and the aids, so more than likely it’s the latency within the TV itself sending the sound to Bluetooth. But it depends on the TV. I’ve tried using the ConnectClip on my NVidia Shield TV unit and I don’t perceive any noticeable latency from the NVidia Shield TV.

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#33

Hmmm, could very well be. Thanks for answering. Gives me more confidence if I need an intermediary devise with a CI if that happens.

#34

@cvkemp: Chuck, I forget exactly what benefit MoreSoundBooster is to you. Could you refresh my memory, please? (I can barely hear any difference when I have mine engaged.)

#35

I.hear the difference when I’m a noisy environment such as a restaurant, without the MoreSoundBoast I can barely hear anyone at the table but with it I can hear anyone I am look at with ease. The other is in a meeting so I can hear an individual that I need to hear.

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#36

Thanks, Chuck. I’m hardly ever in those environments. Perhaps I’ll have to treat myself to lunch this week just as an experiment! :joy:

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#37

Most of.my meetings are church business meetings, VA group meets or the American Legion. And I treat my wife to a nice meal at least once a.month. Our anniversary is coming up on the fifteen of February.

#38

Congrats! How many?

WH

#39

I am the historian of my American Legion Post the officers meeting is only about 7 people but the open post meeting is around 50 people, we meet monthly. The Veterans meeting depends on the need, so far this month there has been 2 a week with about 10 veterans each meeting, there isn’t anything off the table because there are also staff from the clinic to answer the hard questions, I am there to hopefully get hearing aid connectivity issues taken care of and to encourage the veterans that are new to hearing aids.
My church meetings are weekly with anywhere from 5 to 50 people. And my weekly Bible study is nay 10 of us old guys. I stay busy.

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#40

Sorry, I meant the anniversary. How many years?

WH

#41

My experience is that all of my bluetooth devices fight with each other to capture the TV bluetooth adapter (iPhone 12 ProMax, laptop, etc.). The only way I’ve found not to experience disruption on one device is to turn bluetooth off all the other devices. I suspect it’s more of a bluetooth issue than anything else.

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#42

19, Linda is my second wife, my first wife was killed in a automobile accident in the early 2000s. We had been married 29 years. Linda’s husband died from kidney failure about 18 months before my Lydia passed. Lydia and Linda had been best friends, and Linda had worked with me for a number of years. Our birthday is the same day. We started seeing each other mostly to keep each other company.

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#43

yes it is, only the newest versions of Bluetooth are doing any thing to help prevent this and that isn’t that much.

#44

Blessings on your upcoming anniversary! We are coming up on 36.

WH

#45

I’m a little lost here on what you’re saying. You said “TV bluetooth adapter”. Did you really mean the Oticon TV Adapter 3.0? Or did you mean the Oticon ConnectClip?

The TV Adapter does not support Bluetooth connection between the source device and itself. It can only accept analog audio input or optical input coming from a TV or whatever other device you may use to drive it. So that’s why I’m confused on what you’re trying to say here.

#46

Does Genie2 have an option that mimics the MoreSound Booster?
( looking at the latest version, I wondered if I overlooked it …)

#47

If I were to create a customized program to mimic the MoreSound Booster on Genie 2, I’d select the Speech in Noise built-in program, then set the Neural Noise Suppression max values in Easy and Difficult to the max value your More can support, and change the Directionality Settings to Fully Directional. You can always compare that to the real MoreSound Booster mode in the ON app to see if that seems close enough for you or not. You can do further customization if you want, but that’d be my starting point.