#31

APD is I believe, Auditory Processing Disorder @TambourineMan…. We are all different, I now prefer NAL-NL2 fitting formula, I find it sharper and clearer, as opposed to DSL v5 Adult, others might disagree…. Cheers Kev :wink:

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#32

Kevin,
In this instance, APD is Adaptive Phonak (Digital). Read more here:

Phonak Pro link to APD 2.0

WH

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#33

Thank You for that correction WH…. It’s not often that I am right, but I’m wrong again :rofl: :upside_down_face: :joy:

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#34

I think it is good when we give and accept correction without drama. Get to the bottom of the truth. I try to leave my heart to the sides of the stories where we need to support each other, away from the technical details. If I am corrected, at least I know better. As a beginner, I am learning all the time. (I’m good at google, maybe? :wink:

All the best to you for your great help in general!

WH

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#35

For me WH, it is always nice to be nice, civility costs you nothing, and I always try to appreciate when I am corrected, and if we all never made any mistakes, we might have a perfect world…… Unfortunately, like us, this world is full of imperfections, we can only strive to make perfect, although I don’t believe that job has ever been done, yet? Thank you…. Cheers Kev :wink:

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#36

I’ll be JIGGERED but I just quizzed my new audi on that very topic yesterday, as I’d made a note of your suggestion here. Now maybe I didn’t say it right, but her reply was that all makers of hearing aids have their own algorithm for making the aids adjust to ambient sound and hopefully improving its quality. “DSL v5 adult” would be an example of such an algorithm, so my aids should already be doing this. Ahem.

On top of which there are the dedicated programs to FORCE one’s aid to do JUST THAT. Speech in Loud Noise is an example.

Well suffice it to say it ain’t perfect, cuz I’m still having trouble discerning what’s being said in NOISY places! I made a couple changes at my app’t tho: I added Comfort in Echo - which I think makes a BIG improvement in my being able to hear better in my super echo-y new house, and I put Speech in Loud Noise in to see if that works in a noisy place. I may have had Comfort in Noise the way that program was working for me - making everything muted down INCLUDING the person I’m talking to in a noisy place.

It’s trial and error followed by more trial and error - never ending for us folks who seek perfection with our hearing devices.

#37

The default fitting formula for Phonak Marvel is actually APD 2.0 so no, your Aids won’t be working with the DSL v5 adult settings.

:slight_smile:

#38

LOL! You are like a Wizard! I don’t think my new audi is as conversant as you in these algorithms. But I’m grateful to have met her and gotten Comfort in Echo set up as Pgm #1 in my Marvels! YAY!

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#39

@1Bluejay

Hope you enjoy comfort in echo program. It’s a good program.

:slight_smile:

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#40

It is indeed a good program. My Audiologist gave me one for when I was first struggling with the HAs in church. I made a custom off of it to use until I got the Roger On. Now I use an FM receiver from the sound guys and cable that into the Roger. Like being jacked into the sound board!

WH

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#41

I’m enjoying the Comfort in Echo … BUT (you knew there’d be one!) it does seem to cut off the crisper high frequencies for a person with my highly-compressed programmed aids. I guess that is the reality - tradeoff.

So while I still wake up and put the aids into Comfort in Echo at home, that doesn’t mean I’m comprehending every single word said to me. Words get clipped, and I have to fill in the blank with my own mind.

Ah well. Without this program, my kitchen alone was making me DEAFER every single day. I guess the lesson here is: if you’re in the market to buy a house, be sure the acoustics are something you can live with.

I state the obvious … which I didn’t even do myself. :woozy_face:

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#42

We managed to buy a big open architecture style house with hardwood floors or tile everywhere (except the attic?), and it is reverberant like a sonofagun. I didn’t have my HAs yet and didn’t realize they wouldn’t fix that. Roger to the rescue, to some extent. I can hear the microwave running anywhere in the house. And when the little boys come over I can hear them from anywhere in the house!

WH

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#43

You may gradually “tune out” the undesirable sounds: my parents had a very loud wind-up clock, which I never heard until every time we came home after having been away for a week or two.

#44

Seven months so far. Only really objectionable when we have parties. The Roger barely gets me through then.

WH

#45

So tell me: how exactly do you use Roger in this setting? Does it require an accessory (pen, little flying saucer thing, necklace) to work?

We are living in the same kind of “sonofagun” house now. Polished white travertine floors, floor-to-ceiling windows. It’s beautiful, but YE GODS, after an evening of entertaining just a few people, my ears and brain have been hammered to a JELLY.

#46

I put my Roger On on the table, and when things are really bad I point it around like a flashlight. You still hear the noise in the background, but the Roger does a remarkable job at sucking in the voice sound. It is great in restaurants and other tough noise places. Just not music.

WH

#47

If you are only talking to one person, you may clip it to their top. It goes into presenter mode in that case.

WH

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#48

OK got it! This is how I thought it operated. There’s the “flying saucer” thingy that folks also put on a table, but I think maybe a pen device is simple enough. Does one HAVE to have the phone app to make this work? (I’m guessing: YES)

#49

No, but it provides a lot of nice functionality. I can select arcs out of the circle around the On when it is in table mode to ignore in sixths. This is pretty important to me when I am talking to a couple people at a table and don’t want noise from other directions.

I can also change the modes and whether it is locked in a mode from the app, but once it is in a mode you can lock it with the button, too.

WH

#50

OK. That sounds interesting enough for me to look into. Initially, I’d even thought of using the Roger pen to “stream” with my TV here, as I didn’t have any way to hook up a TV connector to the TV. So this is yet another use for the device. It would SURE come in handy at restaurants, too. YOU BETCHA!

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