Opticon vs. Audibel or?

This past week I learned that I have high frequency hearing loss rated moderate to severe. I would like to receive your opinions regarding the hearing aids that have been recommended to me.

  • Retired at 53 due to Epilepcy.
  • Children all grown and on their on.
  • Primary hearing activity is normal conversing with my tender voiced wife, telephone conversations, visits with friends (usually no more than four of us at a time), conversing at resturants.
  • Very limited travel.
  • No more sporting event attendance
  • No more car race event attendance
  • Major television and movie watching with our home theater system.
  • Bird watching and strolling in our gardens.

Here is the list of recommended hearing aids:

  • Audibel Virtue 12 ($4800) batteries extra
  • Opticon Delta 4000 ($3400), 5000 ($4000) or 8000 ($6000) with free batteries for life
I'm open to suggested other brands or hearing aids

The Virtue 12 is wonderful, and I think they are one of the best aids out there. I’ve fitted many aids over the years, and this is one of my favorites. You might ask about the Virtue 16 which is actually a reasonable upgrade to the 12. It’s basically the 12 with a few enhancements. So I wouldn’t pay any more than 10% more for it.

Don’t worry about batteries. They are going to cost next to nothing. I’d say (depending on size) you should be spending no more than $80 per year on batteries.

The Virtue 12 is easily as good as the Oticon 8000. So it will be 10 years at least before the free batteries give you any kind of return.

I’m an Audibel dispenser myself, and I can tell you that a set of Virtue 12s for that price is a good deal.

I work in a market where there is a shortage of hearing professionals. I could probably find another dispensing job tomorrow if I wanted to. But I remain with Audibel because I firmly believe in what they make.

If it means anything to you Audibel is an all American brand, unlike Oticon who are Danish.

One final tip for you. If you like movies and home theater, go into the settings and increase the loudness of the center channel, or reduce all the others a little. This will help make speech easier to understand during movies, since the center channel is primarily for speech and the other channels are for those annoying environmental sounds that add dimension to the movie, but make dialog harder to follow if you are hard of hearing.

Cant compare Audibel with Oticon,
Oticon is the second largest hearing aid company in the world.
My suggestion is the big 3 or 4
Siemens, Oticon, Widex or Phonak this are the obvious choices


Audibel is part of Starkey, who have 35 factories in 24 countries. Just how big do you need the company to be? Audibel has 2,000 hearing professionals and 1,000 hearing centers in the US alone!

To claim that Audibel cannot compete with Oticon is absurd, and shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter.

I respectfully disagree, Starkey is not a public company and therefore there is no way to see how much money is going out to R+D.

Ceteris Paribus, if both products have identical specs, dont you prefer
to buy from a company that is bigger with a strong financial position and
more money pour into R+D?.

I honestly believe, for instance that Siemens and Phonak have superior products that audibel. Anyone agree?

Kids avandia

a question to ADMIN

If you where a candidate for a hearing aid,

would you wear a virtue 12 over a Phonak verve?

Granny Webcam

Moving from an Audibel Eclipse to a Siemans Centra was a big improvement…absolutely no comparison.

I would have to agree that I would personally prefer Oticon versus Starkey/Audibel any day. This is not to say that Starkey/Audibel’s are not good at all, they are very good…just not AS good.

Yet, in today’s world of fast changes, it is my personal opinion that companies such as Oticon & Phonak are leading the way. When it comes to wireless technology and Bluetooth connectivity, there is no doubt that Oticon is currently the leader with Epoq, with Siemens & Phonak close behind.

Starkey is a great company as far as marketing goes, with their programs for direct mail, newspaper ads, etc and support their dispensers/audi’s very well in terms of marketing support.

Yet, if you really want to find out for yourself which is better, you would have to try and find out for yourself.

The Eclipse was yesterdays technology, it came out in or before 2004. The Virtue represents a complete generation better than the Eclipse, so it’s not really a fair comparison. The Centra is still offered by Siemens, the Eclipse has been discontinued.

Tell me, does Audibel train their distributors to tamper with a users HAs after a given period of time in order to sell them more?

what do you mean tamper? can you please tell us about your story?


As a hearing impaired person I allowed an Audibel (he was a Beltone distributor when I bought my first ones from him) to have my full confidence. Over a period of probably 25 years I believed what I was being told and consiquenty bought 5 sets of HAs from Beltone. He changed to Audibel and promptly sold me another set. I walked into his office one day to make an appointment to get my units cleaned and was met with a loud beligerent owner. I had filled out a survey Audibel had sent out and said I was not completely happy. (In reality they never had been programed properly even after wearing them for 2 years).He then told me I needed new hearing aids(after only 2 years I don’t think so). I left mad and spent the next year and a half trying to find an Audibel distributor to help me. The last one I went to really fouled up the tubes, I wear BTEs, put some kind of program in them and then told me there was something loose in one of them. And then proceeded to try and sell me their latest model.

Now I am having a really hard time believing that Audibel and Beltone do not promote this kind of treatment. Theres more to the story but you should be able to see my point.

I could tell you, what my I know from GN (GN owns Beltone).
They had never even suggested anything un ethical…
While I dispense very little of their products, In general i believe the overall trend is to find ways to dispense products in a professional manner.

SOme companies such as Phonak- widex organize conferences (not sales oriented) where tecniques- findings are discuss. All this in the hopes to
provide better services plus products…

The overall trend is to provide more counceling to empower the customers…


Bait and switch ads not withstanding? Audibel sends their high producing distributors on cruises…

dear 3put
most manufactures offer some sort of loyati programs, like Oticon and GN offers equipment if you order x NUMBER Of equipment

I will tell you that in other parts of the world some hearing dispensers, even offer money to ents for referrals. This is a well know fact, this is pretty standart in latin america, china, and india


I will tell you that in other parts of the world some hearing dispensers, even offer money to ents for referrals. This is a well know fact, this is pretty standart in latin america, china, and india

With all due respect, why should I care what the rest of the world does?

What I do care about is the way the aged and hearing impaired are being treated by immoral and unethical chain brand hucksters.