OPN with CROS/BiCROS like functionality?


#1

I am trying to find out if the OPN can be used as CROS or in a manner that provides sound from deaf ear to the better ear. The product literature appears to suggest sound localization is amazeballs with the OPN but I can’t find any actual reviews/mentions of it.

I had trialed an older Widex CROS pair and saw here recently that the new Beyonds do NOT work in CROS manner.

I am trying to decide what I want to do: just one OPN (streaming yay!)? older Widex CROS (no streaming booo!).


#2

I would think that eventually the Widex Beyond will be able to be paired with the Widex CROS - For some reason there has been a bit of a lag with the recent Widex technology and connectivity with the CROS unit. For example, the Unique platform was released in late 2015, but was not able to be paired with the CROS unit until mid last year when the software was upgraded. This did not require the user getting a new hearing aid, just going in for an appointment once the new software had landed as the hearing aid then had the ability to be paired with the CROS unit. Anyhow, get your clinician to check with the Widex rep. re: CROS functionality with the new Beyond and if in fact this is something which is on the cards. The Beyond hasn’t been released in Australia yet (where I work) so I’m not sure at this stage


#3

Well that’s a point for Widex. If they can pair up down the road.

Anyone else have anything on Oticon’s option? I’m not talking about the near field thing to detect whether or not an aid has slipped off your ear (is this an actual problem for people?!).


#4

I think I’d call the companies if you want to know for sure. This link suggests that the Beyond is available with CROS, but who knows http://www.discounthearingaidsofamerica.com/widex-hearing-aids.php


#5

Are you sure they aren’t talking about finding aids one has misplaced?


#6

As I said in another thread, my audiologist demonstrated a Widex Beyond w/bicros in my own ears a week or so ago.


#7

I don’t think the NFMI (Near Field Magnetic Induction) is to detect whether or not an aid has slipped off your ear. It’s actually for exchanging data and audio between the 2 HAs to provide binaural processing.


#8

I think Phonak may have CROS + streaming capability - but you’d need to check with a reputable audiologist. It does seem like a good combo for HA wearers who may be utterly deaf in one ear, but hear something in the other. Ideally, sound entering the deaf ear would be xferred to the hearing ear. And why not have the device capable of streaming, too? Let us know if you find out anything.


#10

What was your opinion of the Beyond with BiCROS? I am… curious to know!


#11

I love the Beyond. I didn’t fuss with BiCROS much except for a few moments in the office as she demo’d for me. I’m not near doubling my HA costs just to get a couple microphones on my bad side. I’ve spent almost 50 years without hearing in my left side, I’m used to it.


#12

I’ve been thinking about this myself. I wonder why mfgs who offer BiCROS support don’t design just a bare bone HA that consist of just the mics and circuitry to send the audio and data over to the other side and skip all of the rest of the processing chips. This would be the right way to offer the functionality, instead of making the patient buy another complete HA where all the sound processing is not necessary and wasted.


#13

I think this is pretty much the definition of the CROS transmitter. Maybe what you meant was; it would be good if manufacturers added a feature to send the signal over in a normal aid.


#14

I always assumed that the CROS feature is something added to the normal aid, so a normal aid has both a CROS transmitter and receiver on top of all the regular stuff. What I also don’t know is whether the CROS transmitter sends over the fully processed sound to the normal aid, or whether it only sends unprocessed sound from the other ear to the normal side to be combined with the sound on the normal side before it gets processed by the aid on the normal side. If this is the case and the DSP circuitries of the deaf side are not utilized for sound processing, then maybe they can make a cheaper HA for the deaf side without the DSP circuitries to save on cost for that HA.


#15

Phonak do this and save the extra device - the remote mic is just that.

Widex use a pair of full blown units and pre-process the sound before transmission.