#32

@anytrams56: FWIW, I think that your commitment to learning more before you ante up for some pretty expensive devices is exactly right.

As others have stated here, and in countless other threads, the key to success with your first HAs hinges on two things:

  1. An audiologist with whom you have good “chemistry”, and who is committed to your successful treatment, and
  2. A reasonable set of expectations, going into the swamp.

As @hass5744 and @cvkemp love to point out (because it’s true) hearing aids will never restore you to “like new” condition.

Hearing aids will help mitigate the effects that damaged hearing is having on your quality of life, but they can never cure the damage. They’re only there to help

So, you need to have a good understanding about which auditory soundscapes you find most problematic, and go from there.

If you haven’t already done so, get a notebook and start taking notes to discuss with your audiologist.

We’re all dealing with certain situations that our devices don’t handle so well. Speech comprehension in noise is a biggie, but there are others. Use the Search function to find other Members grappling with the same issues as yourself, and read up on their experiences.

Don’t give up, whatever you do, and good luck!

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#33

Hi Volusiano, does my hearing loss look steep?

The Audi told me that More 1 helps a bit but not all in this type of hearing loss as the left and right loss level is different. The loss in the high frequency affects word recognition (that’s what I have). The Audi suggests CI (i do not want that).

Still happy with the HA because I can hear the voice watching TV (lower volume) with the good ear and the HA assist hearing in certain types of restaurants ( 60-80%) but not in a group of friends at a round table inside a room of 5 tables (down to 10-20%) (Noisy environment).

Your kind adviceand comments. Thank you.

#34

@dankailo: You didn’t ask my opinion, however, I believe that your hearing loss is outside of More’s fitting range, is it not?

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#35

Hi @dankailo , yes, your hearing loss is rather quite steep in my opinion compared to most. In fact, I think it was your hearing loss that I saw and told myself how steep it was.

Your kind of hearing loss can really use the frequency lowering technology to help bring the sounds you cannot hear in the higher frequencies down to the lower frequency area where you still have some hearing left. Unfortunately, the Oticon frequency lowering technology (Speech Rescue) can only go as low as 1.6 to 2.4 KHz destination range, where your hearing loss is already profound, so it wouldn’t help. See the screenshot below for reference on the Speech Rescue ranges.

If you don’t want to go the CI route and want to get the most out of the HA route, you may want to explore the Phonak frequency lowering technology called Sound Recover 2. I think its destination range can go as low as around 750 Hz, which is the range where your left hearing still has some hearing ability left. This way, you may be able to “recover” some of those mid to high frequency sounds that you haven’t been able to hear before anymore. Note that I said “may be able to” and not “can”, because the Sound Recover 2 is frequency compression, so it works for some people but not necessarily for everybody, depending on how their brain hearing can adapt to and make use of the lowered sound information. But it really doesn’t hurt to try and it’s really the only option left for you to try if you don’t want to go the CI route but want to be able to “restore” and hear some of those mid and high frequency sounds, albeit at a lowered frequency range.

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#36

Hi Jim,

Is these the 2 diagrams regarding the fitting range? I am still confused. I thought MORE1 fit my hearing loss.

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#37

The 105 receiver only goes to 105 DB at the most.

Isn’t your mid frequencies worse?

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#38

@dankailo

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I’m not an expert tho knowing if it would make a difference tho in how you hear.

:slight_smile:

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#39

I have a 100db with mic with a power dome. Pls explain ob the mid frequencies. Thanks

#40

100 DB receiver is even less powerful.

See my last post with the blue line. The 105 DB receiver won’t amplify past the blue line.

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#41

@dankailo

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You’re missing out the frequencies in the red box at the bottom.

An expert might explain in more detail about amplifying those frequencies might actually not be the best anyway because of how bad they are.

@Neville might know?

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#42

Yes, saw the blue line. So where do I start? Per Valusiano comment, Phonak has a higher range on speech rescue (Oticon white paper - frequency lowering range 2015).
There is an offer in classified section, Phonak Paradise P90 selling at USD750 per pair. Very tempting.

Thanks

#43

@Zebra @Neville

Would a powerful Phonak or Oticon be helpful in my case?

#44

Your loss is profound, possibly off the chart in some of those frequencies,a BTE would be a good place to start, like Nadia UP, can’t understand why anyone would recommend RIC, next step is CI, something you have to seriously consider, even tho I see you mentioned you didn’t want to do this.

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#45

BTE is slightly bigger. RIC is just nice. The Audi started with More 3 and I bought More 1! So I end up with RIC and a difficult to hear in noisy environments. Watching TV is fine and a quiet restaurant is OK but not in the seminar room or noisy restaurant.

CI is very expensive here and insurance does not cover it.

#46

@dankailo: Good morning, Dankailo! If I were you, I would seek the counsel of @kevels55 - he has a lot of experience with profound hearing losses.

I don’t think you would benefit from the features that @Volusiano has described because you are right close to the edge of the fitting margin for most regular HAs. I think you’re in Oticon Exceed (old technology) or Phonak Naidu territory.

Personally, I’d be like you and not want a CI, but I think there are Members whose posts I have read about what can be done these days with UP hearing aids. But I’m certain @kevels55 will be glad to help you.

I’m sure you know I wish you nothing but the best of luck in searching for sn appropriate treatment for your loss. I send you only my kindest regards to that effect.

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#47

Good Morning to you. Our time is 4.50pm.

Good idea to check with@kevels55

#48

BTE is what is needed tho to gain the best you can from hearing, I think.

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#49

The frequencies you’re missing out on, I believe is where clarity comes from and better understanding in noise?

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#50

@dankailo: Unfortunately, I think you’ll find that once your loss reaches a certain point (and I believe you’re there) no HA can solve the “Speech in Noise” problem. Then you need a Phonak that can use the fantastic Roger accessories.

(You’ll have to come out of retirement and start treating piggies again!:pig:)

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#51

African swine fever (ASF) wipes out 40% of the swine population in the country. We are suffering at the mercy of wild boars! Africa to Spain to Germany to Russia to China and finally to Asia. :crying_cat_face: