Phonak uses classic BT and shouldn’t have any issues being connected to any Mac. MFi is a form of bluetooth, just more energy efficient.
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Only problem is with the user. Me.
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edit: update.
My 2 iMacs are 2010 vintage. They will be replaced. Except–thought it was done and 2 iMacs were ordered. The charges weren’t as explained in the Apple Store. Complimentary gift cards cost 2X$200. Result? the order was disallowed and the credit card is locked and must now be replaced. Thanks Apple Canada.
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I have the Oticon HA’s. Expensive. HA bluetooth works well on ipad/Iphone/iWatch. Doesn’t bluetooth on my iMac Sonoma. “Hearing Device not accessible” - VERY DISAPPOINTING. This is a heads-up in case you were thinking that Apple has sorted out the MFI incompatibility on the iMac M1 (bought mine from iStore in January 2024)
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Welcome to the forum!
As a temporary workaround you may want to consider the Audio Relay app. It is free to trial and $14 to buy. It connects over WiFi or USB. I use USB to my computer and it has almost no delay. Less then a 1ms ‘additional’ delay over the phone to HAs default delay! It runs on iPhone, Mac, Android, Windows and Linux. I set my PC as the server them connect my Android to the IP address that shows up for my PC. It is pretty straightforward to use and I did not know which should be the server at first. Good luck!
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While I’ve recommended Audio Relay in another thread myself; I have to correct you.
That latency just isn’t possible. Processing in hearing devices usually adds between 5-10ms [there are exceptions with ultra-low latency in devices from Widex] on top of that, BT connection between your phone and hearing devices will add around ~50ms. Summarily, it’s not enough to be noticeable by most people, but it definitely isn’t 1 ms.
For clarification, the time I referred to is what is displayed in the app as the client t server connection. In my case it is USB-C to USB-C. The delay from the cellphone to the hearing aids is neither measured or part of the app. It is the phone that uses Bluetooth to connect to the hearing aids. In my case the could be as fast as the devices LE Audio latency however I was using the ASHA protocol so it is whatever that is.
The other option for Audio Relay is WiFi which would have a larger server to client latency.
In this scenario and knowing that the phone still connects over Bluetooth to the HAs, the ‘additional’ latency added by the app is minimal and is what impressed me.
Sorry if there was a misunderstanding.
I know, it adds around 200 ms. I’ve made post about Audio Reley here some time ago, but since then Linux gained capability to connect hearing devices directly so I have no need to use AR anylonger.
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Yes I have been following the Linux thread for ASHA compatibility. I used to spend my life between many Unix and Linux OSes. Fond memories. I am glad ASHA on Linux is making progress. I hope the Open Source parts of Android 15 beta 2 and 3 have been a help.
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Andoid 15 focuses on Audio LE, ASHA is done for, more or less. One of the ASHA projects also tries to build an open-source audio dongle (around 10$ cost ) to free us from overpriced proprietary devices.
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Thanks for the input guys. sounds very complicated for my small brain!
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Does your iMac have an M1 Pro or M1 Max chip? If it is a base M1 chip then you will not be able to connect directly to the iMac (via MFi) and will need to use a Connect clip. The connect clip ‘translates’ regular bluetooth to Oticons proprietary LE bluetooth.
(I have an M2 MacBook and MFI direct connection works fine since Sonoma came out, before that I had to use Connect clip.)
I think there must be some way to Keep It Simple.
I had an amazing manager when I was a baby engineer. He suggested to ask questions.
- Does it work?
- If it doesn’t work, what’s changed?
We’re encouraged to know that our hearing aids are medical equipment. If so, why do so many of us have issues, and have hearing aids that don’t work?
I’ve had two pair of hearing aids that didn’t work for extended periods. It was extremely stressful. I hope my answer helps.
I’m happy to say that my Oticon Intents work well with MacOS Sequoia and MacBook Pro M2. Also instantly connect when switching devices. Finally!
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Yesterday, my iPhone 14 Pro (iOS 18) was in another room while I was working on my MacBook Air (M2 - macOS 15). My Oticon Intent hearing aids were connected to my phone. I received a phone call, answered it on my Mac, and the sound went directly to my hearing aids. The conversation was very clear and glitch-free. I didn’t have to do anything special—just answered the call on my Mac… Edit: I forgot to mention that I never moved away from my Mac and my iPhone stayed in the other room the whole time.
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Your comment is very useful. I have the same setup as you (except. iMac 2024). I plan to get the Intent. However, as I understand things, at the moment the iMac Sequoia doesn’t have the same connectivity. I have to use the ConnectClip - which is an absolute nuisance. ( have used a previous model of Oticon with connectclip.)
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I bought an iMac 2024 very recently. Very annoyed to discover that the M1 chip doesnt work with the Oticon (unless with the ConnectClip)
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Well… I don’t believe it but today I was able to connect my macbook m3 max to my resound EQ598 hearing aids, wtf?!
It looks like the Apple MFI hearing devices support page has been updated. IIRC it previously stated that only the asterisked (bidirectional) hearing devices were supported by macOS Sonoma 14. Now it says that AND also says that hearing devices without an asterisk (unidirectional) are supported by macOS Sequoia 15.
Resound Enzo 3D ET998 also working with macOS now.
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Just confirming here, I was able to connect my non-bidirectional hearing aid to the mac before Sequoia. But now I can stream as well. Thanks for the update.
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