Curious what others think when threads get past several hundred posts (KS8 and KS9 threads are both well past 700)? I find it very unwieldy, but am curious of others takes. Is there any AI that could break threads into subthreads? (might be humorous!) I guess my post has two questions:1) Are long threads a problem? and 2) If so, what is a good solution? Thanks.
No, not an issue.
Look at how many iOS 13.x threads there are - for those of us having iOS 13 issues and looking for info / status / solution, multiple threads are a nightmare.
I find the search tool on Hearing Tracker works well for long threads, and less well for finding answers across multiple threads. YMMV
Yes, I find it overwhelming sometimes too… And due to the lazy loading, one cannot use the browser’s search function without first scrolling through the entire page. Kind of a pain, but agree with @teejayess that the built-in search works well enough to find what I’m looking for usually.
Although one thing that’s “schizophrenic” about the AI on this site is the following two-fold split:
You go to start a new thread - the AI often asks you if you really want to do it based on your topic title because it’s found a bunch of old threads that it thinks are similar - but often the similarity is just a crazy “AI” mix-up.
Or, you find an old thread that you think would be ideal to add a new comment to but if the thread is much older than several months old, the “AI” discourages you from posting in the thread as you’ll alert all the previous posters who the AI imagines, because they haven’t posted recently, consider the thread over and done with. This “AI” effectively encourages splitting a topic across multiple threads, e.g., how many different threads on molds vs. domes, wind noise, etc., are there?
The forum software has a bookmarking function. Perhaps showing my ignorance of how tthe site works, it would be nice if the forum had either a manual or automatic “grouping” function so as the user went along, he/she could group or tag threads according to personally useful topics of interest. It would probably add unnecessary complication but it might be interesting if you could share your group of bookmarks on a certain topic with someone else in a concise way.
Right now SEARCH is the best way of discovering what’s out there but there is very little way of transferring topic organization to someone else except by creating a post with links, which itself gets lost in the ocean. I think a lot of people, though, don’t want to be bothered with organization and past history and just want a more ad hoc conversational mode that’s “in the moment.”
I suspect that if a new user joins and wants info about the KS9 for example, they are not going to read that whole thread. Not sure what the solution is.
I guess one could have curated Wiki’s. The best forum that I’ve been a member of was very strongly moderated, organized by topic, and had sticky Wiki-like posts on how to start as a beginner on a particular topic and then move on from there to more advanced considerations. But then how to handle the tech of a particular smartphone and smartphone OS is probably a lot simpler than topics in hearing loss as for starters every smartphone of a particular brand and model comes into the world with the same specs and behaviors initially. Not so with hearing loss and hearing user preferences, etc.
I’m not familiar with those threads…and I haven’t been here long enough to know how it rolls…but I can comment generally speaking, with experience on other forums (other subject matter)
- if it’s a subject you care about and you’ve been participating all along…no big deal.
- if a person is new to the thread…either finding it by searching or just new in general to the forum…it’s just plain ridiculous to consider the whole thread so often a person might chime in regarding the latest few posts…which might have crept far from the topic…and then that just drifts it further along some side track…or others will have interjected related but different questions or topics…and it’s just overwhelming to sort through.
- Long threads like that usually will drift off and back on topic to some degree. Eventually there’s so much thread creep that it becomes nearly meaningless.
- if it’s a heating issue for you…something you’ve found by searching for it and something you really care about, then it’s gold if you can find a thread that has tons and tons of info addressing your question.
I find very annoying that replies appears always duplicated, first as reply and as independent comment. That contributes to make long threads worse.
I’m finding the same frustrating issues with every 3rd person starting a new thread on Phonak Marvels and issues they are having with them… As mentioned above use the search function.
Long threads are fine with me if they stay on subject. It’s the off subject matter that takes away the ability to search a subject when trying to learn something or share something. Off subject matter has honestly gotten out of hand on many threads.
700? Bah. On another forum threads run to 99,999 posts, the software chokes, someone rushes to post a new thread and the madness goes on.
“John Curl’s Blowtorch” has 31,034 posts today, in ‘Part III’. Part II ran 99,999 posts. I can’t find part I. It hasn’t really been about JC’s Blowtorch in like a decade. Yes, it is unwieldy. The 12,000-post Food thread is little better.
I have moderated forums since before Al Gore invented the internet. Breaking threads is “mop-work”. Most forum staff get NO pay. Most drifty threads do OK if left alone. If you don’t break threads regularly the steps are unfamiliar, and it is easy to screw-up and make orphan threads. Also some participants get lost even if you post redirections. I’ll break when it is clearly “better for all”. A sharp turn, overwhelming the original thread, and now not even in the right section.
Yes, and sometimes the same person starts multiple threads in different or same section. At DIYaudio the mods frequently do Merge such duplicates to a single thread in a best section. But this is also mop-work.
If you, reading through, really feel a thread should be Broken (or Merged), report it. Most forum software has a “Report to Moderator” button (but I can’t find it here?). Report the first drifted post and say "This thread should be split here and moved to “Lounge” with topic “1953 Hudson memories”. (Note that a partial split, some split and some left behind, is extra tedious for the moderator.)
My thoughts are that a long thread just becomes a gossip bin. The current KS9 thread
at 1200 or so posts is a good example. Trying to find useful information in it is like trying to pick fly do-do out of pepper. I think the forum benefits from users starting new threads with very specific questions in the title. Someone else with the same question is much more likely to find that thread and get some benefit out of it. The KS9 thread is like a whole file cabinet with only one file folder in it.
Another approach is just to ignore it and participate less because it’s annoying.
To report to moderator, you click on …, then on the flag.
This forum has always been one for learning and a place for people hard of hearing to get help.
I suspect the type forums you are referring to are on the opposite side of the tracks from what I see this forum as.
Posts that are all over the place not following the original subject matter become outdated and unusable in a short time. Unable for members to get any benefit from.
This to me is spot on with an emphasis on the “subject” being detailed enough to help narrow down the search function?
Maybe I’m the only one who concluded this, but with the KS9 thread - what I saw was that several people did start new KS9 threads about their own experience or asking a specific question. Those threads elicited little or no interest, and the posters moved their queries or comments to the big KS9 thread, where they did get replies.
I agree generally that more specific threads would be more helpful, but if practically that doesn’t work for people, you can’t blame them for going with what does work.