Is there any difference between Jabra Enhance Pro 30 and the Resound Vivia 9 when it comes to background noise?
Consensus is that they are identical products.
No nothing at all,they are the same with different names. The only difference is in the price…by a lot!
Oh geez. I thought one had better background noise control.
No they haven’t crippled the Jabra, I do wonder if Jabra could have something to offer in future models, this would be great to see happening, instead of just swapping name’s around.
Likewise, I hope to see that too. Jabra is way more affordable and good technology.
Why would that be good?
The name swapping is so Costco can sell and support the Jabras while (somewhat) protecting audiologists selling the and supporting the much more expensive Resounds.
I am fine with getting the latest Resound technology at Costco prices (and in my experience excellent Costco fitting and support).
Well it’s actually the same good technology
Why wouldn’t it, Jabra have great products and experience with music, especially with bluetooth, something the HA manufacturers don’t offer or give much, most will contest the music is subpar from HA manufacturers, they don’t swap names around just to protect the clinic’s, Jabra and Costco couldn’t give a stuff about them, just look at what Phonak did with Costco, they kept the brand name, but having the HA manufacturers buying into the music industry for headphones/earbuds isn’t just so they can sell at Costco, no I see tech support for each other, Sennheiser/Phonak, Sony /WS Audiology, GN ReSound/Jabra, so I see it as a good thing if they share each other’s expertise to give us a better end product.
I have both the Resound Nexia 9 and the jabra 20 … they are identical except for the name on the side and the model number on them ! All the same features and programed with the same Resound Software.
If Jabra did its own R & D & engineering, their costs would go up significantly, and it’s possible they’d want to pass those costs on to retailers, who would probably pass them on to consumers.
Both Jabra, Resound, and Beltone are all made by the same company, GN. Obviously, GN wants to keep the name brands separate to allow Beltone and Resound dealers to charge more money to those who don’t know that the exact same hearing aids can be purchased at Costco for a lot less money. However, because of the popularity of hearing aids at Costco, you may have to wait a couple of weeks to get an appointment with your hearing aid specialist. According to a recent article in the Wall Street Journal, Costco is the number two prover of hearing aids in the country other than the VA.
Actually they kind of do @tenkan !
Both Jabra and Resound brands are owned by GN and the hearing aids we are discussing are exactly the same, as you know. This is classic segmentation of the market by GN. They want to sell through Costco as it sells so many units and we know GN has low wholesale prices when we see what the contract prices are for the VA. But they also want to sell into the premium market as one of the recognised top brands through the clinics. Using different brand names is the easy way to do it.
Changing the subject, I have just got a pair of Resound Vivia 9 rechargeables. There are some oddities about the way SmartFit operates with them, but I won’t write about that in this thread, especially as I’m still learning about them. More later!
Hi David, just saying it’s not the only reason, Rexton, Phonak and ReSound are brands that have been sold under their own branding, no I believe it’s also for the knowledge base they’ve brought into these companies, but yeah doesn’t matter anymore because this market is starting fractionate into something that’s going to be far reaching,the end results will be something that will actually live up to the marketing department blurb. As a side note I’m looking forward to your post on what your suspicions are with your new Vivia and SmartFit, cheers
The real future is over the counter hearing aids that are programmed over your cell phone. Audiologists will be one of those professions that AI will destroy.
This I believe you’re right, AI is gonna be some beast that won’t be tamed in this industry.
Will AI improve speech in noise? Yes, I think so. Will it replace Audiologists? I doubt it. Even if it would be technologically feasible, a large portion of the hearing aid demographics will still require a human being.
OTC hasn’t caught on so far. What will be different if there is more AI involved?
It’s already feasible to replace audiologists. You can take an audiogram online, Companies like Jabra will send you the hearing aids preprogrammed from your audiogram. Then, the followup care is via online adjustments. When most of us old boomers are under the grass, then the next generation will not need audiologists.
I don’t think AI will replace all Audiologists, but AI will take over a number of functions that a two year degree hearing aid fitter would be licensed to do.
Anyhow, we have got off topic and this discussion should be in it’s own thread.
Ya, I don’t think AI will fully replace an Audiologist, because, sure, a normal hearing test it can, but real ear measurement only an audiologist can do that. They have to fit the hearing aids in and attach a loop to do the measurements.
REM is not required for a successful fit, contrary to what is plastered all over the forum, but it’s already in the pipeline, the HAs own microphone will do everything thanks to AI, no need for the clumbersome placements of microphones and expensive equipment for AI, so the brick and mortar clinic with the audiologist will be a thing of the past, HAs will have the perfect fit new AI designed domes that will be better then any custom made mold, will fit any ear canal perfectly, there’ll be no RIC,BTE, just fully functional CIC that does everything a RIC could ever do and more…yeah just let your imagination run wild on what the future holds.