IIC Choice - Starkey Evolv 2400 IIC vs Phonak Virto P90 Titanium

Sorry that was the advice, you know don’t be shy or embarrassed about your hearing loss.

This only happens when people talk more about wanting “invisible” discreet HAs because their embarrassed by being seen using HAs, they talk about being “not interested” in what a HA can actually offer in advancing their hearing options, extra features aren’t always a waste of time, one other thing is one was asking about wanting to use an app, but couldn’t because of no wireless with those he wanted, I offered a solution by Signia, the silk X which can use the app without wireless.

Ha, you can make as many excuses you want, there isn’t a lifestyle that one must exclusively use a CIC other then “don’t worry no one will know I’m wearing a HA”

You seem to continue making a lot of assumptions. But again, you do not know my circumstances or why I occasionally need a more discrete solution to my daily HA. Hint, it has nothing to do with being embarrassed - and more to do with other apparatus I must wear from time to time as part of professional employment! An IIC will not interfere in ways that anything larger than something in the ear canal will!

Yet more assumptions. How do you know absolutely anything about anyone’s lifestyles? I’d prefer you don’t continue contributing in my thread, to be honest.

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Ha ha, whatever makes you happy, but this is a public forum, but agree it’s time to move on it’s getting late and a cup of tea… is in order.

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For those talking about the Starkey wireless CIC–the antenna can be curved with a little heat and, depending on your ear, tucked into the concha pretty discretely.

For the OP, the phonak and starkey IICs are both good. The titanium is robust and it’s nice to know that if you drop it on something hard it won’t break; it often takes a bit longer to come in because there is only one titanium shell lab and it is international, but then as long as you aren’t having the shell remade repairs are more local. Starkey can usually fit a stronger receiver into a smaller space, but with your loss (and depending on your ear canal) that doesn’t necessarily matter. Starkey’s feedback management is probably a bit better? If you have a nice ear canal for an IIC and can get a good deep impression so as to have a pretty long hearing aid that is still an IIC, feedback may not be much of an issue, but if the hearing aid is going to be pretty short that might be a reason to go with Starkey. If you intend to keep these for a while, check on repair pricing out of warranty as there might be a significant difference. But at the end of the day, differences are probably razor thin; flip a coin.

For those saying that the OP needs to get over their vanity and go with something bigger, depending on the ear that may be a very nice hearing loss for an IIC. Depending on the ear, IICs are comfortable with great retention, wind noise isn’t a problem, natural pinna directionality is maintained. If someone feels that all of their listening difficulties are resolved with an IIC, why SHOULD they get something else? We don’t know what this person’s speech-in-noise abilities are like, they might not need the extra support from directional mics and wireless accessories.

There are absolutely people who demand IICs for whom they are inappropriate, but this person isn’t obviously one of them.

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Stricly for comparing the retention string/fishline thingy. This is how invisible my Eargo is with the string curled into my lobe. Zoom in and maybe you will see it. With the Starkey and Virto units, if you heat and curl it, can you get it to lay like this?

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At no time has anyone told anyone to go for something “bigger”

Yeah that’s one of my points.

Exactly, it’s hard for some to drop that " they won’t know I’m using a HA feeling"

Who cares, that’s not the point of being vain.

Yeah and then again they “might”

Well if you say so.

Only the antenna on the Starkey wireless CIC is longer and more noticable. For the non-wireless versions, the pull strings are already just about like that.

Hi @Neville thanks for the info re curving the antenna with heat - will wait until I get mine and see how far they stick out.

Dumb question - what sort of heat should be used and how would you apply it? By doing this it wouldn’t cause damage to the antennas (if done gently and properly), however what about the warranty side of things?

Thank you!

Can’t even see it! When I tried the Silk X the cord was pretty much invisible like this.

As a first step, I would recommend asking your clinician to do it. If that is new to them, they can reach out to Starkey for advice.

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Excellent advice and insight, thanks very much @Neville

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Thanks for that @Neville

Agree! Thanks @Neville - will definitely take all of this into consideration if I go the IIC route.

Your loss is less good for IICs/CICs because of your good lows. You might want to at least trial a RIC so that you know what you could be missing re: sound quality by choosing an IIC.

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Thanks again @Neville - will ask about this next time I see my audi.

Cheers,
Richard

Not sure what a BTE experience adds to this thread, sorry. I’m specifically being very clear that I want an IIC and looking for user experiences on those.

Anyway, impressions now taken, and Phonaks ordered.
Apparently there’s only one titanium 3D printer and that’s in Vietnam - so an expected 3 week wait now.

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The impressions for my trial Starkey AI 2400 CICs were taken just over 2 weeks ago and won’t be here until early next week. Not sure where in the world they were sent to or if they are being done locally.

Great that you are getting the Phonaks - I’d really love to hear your thoughts on them once you receive them.

Hi @auGMS,

Just an update for you - it seems either my audi or Starkey screwed up and I ended up with a trial pair of Evolv 2400 IIC NW instead of the CIC BT as I had discussed with him. I got these today.

I’ve updated my other post with my experience thus far with the IIC, so hopefully you’ll find it of use. I will endeavor to update as much as possible over the next 2 weeks before I go back for my next adjustment.

Very keen to hear of your experience with the Phonaks when you get them.

Cheers,
Richard

I’ve been using the Phonak IIC’s for about 18 months. I tried Oticon’s first and they were not working for me, so then tried the Phonak’s, which worked much better. I wear them about 12 hours each day and forget they’re there most of the time. Not one person has ever noticed them before. They work well in all but extremely noisy environments, in which I usually just remove them. Are they perfect, no. I still have to use the buttons occasionally to increase volume/change programs, but I’m impressed by the technology crammed into that small of a unit and overall they work for me.

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Thanks. I really like mine. Now i have tweaked them myself and changed to NAL-NL2 prescription, they’re more than good enough. I don’t change programs at all as I find the automatic program change works quite well in most environments.

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