I think I misspoke, @philbob57 , when I said that the ConnectClip can be set in the middle of the table to pick up voices around the table. I think it’s only directional like you said, and the speaking person would have to wear it close to their mouth in order for it to be able to pick up on their voice, like clipping it on their shirt or wear the included lanyard. I think the same for the EduMic. So for sure the Jabra Multi-mic has a big edge over these 2 if it can pick up sound in an omni-directional fashion. Sorry for the bad information.
Hi,
You would need to buy a Noahlink Wireless device that connects to any Windows computer. I got mine on ebay for about $120 if remember correctly. Then you can get the “SmartFit” software here. There is an active thread in this forum right now, just look for Resound or Jabra software thread. When you download and update the SmartFit software on your computer, you then use the Noahlink to communicate that software with your aids. You can then make the exact same adjustments any professional audiologist would make. There are some good online courses on SmartFit and beginner hearing aid programming at Audiologyonline.com Once you register you dont pay for any courses unless you want certifications or class credit. So you get the same courses an audiologist would take and are using the same software and hardware.
Once your aids are connected to SmartFit, the software will “find” your aids and you can save all current settings on your aids, then tinker around with adjustments and if you ruin things, you can always go back to your original saved program or save any adjustments you make and compare them or use them at a later date.
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No problem, Volusiano. It was definitely worth the double-checking.
BTW, for others who like the Multi-mic concept, it looks like Starkey has a similar accessory. Phonak has the Roger series, too, but that’s way higher cost than the Multi-mic.
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What does there’s a big Lebowski on a lot of the claims being made mean?
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??? The Philips is a fairly new branded aid, while the Jabra is ReSound (by GN) which has been around for ages, making a top product in Denmark.
Phillips are made and supplied by Demant A/S (who are also based in Denmark, they make Oticon, sonic, Bernafon etc) all Phillips do is print their name on the case.
Yes, I know that. As for ‘all they do’, . . . ? What I’ve read sounds like it’s a fairly new product, altho the company has been around for a long time.
Also, a Kirkland aid can use Partner Mic for distance connections, as my friend does.
There’s nothing that’s special about Phillip Rebranded HAs, Philips…a new product development? I missed that, your source for this information would be helpful, thanks
It seems they have been selling Philips “HearLink” since at least 2019. But I didn’t see them at Costco until this year. My information was v. incomplete (and still is!)
On other forum discussions on this site there is a lot of information about Philips. My original post on this thread was because I could find very little about the Jabra, which was also being recommended by Costco. I purchased the Philips because of the many good reviews I found. In California, I paid $1659. The Jabra would have cost $1759. Within a month Costco reduced the Philips price by $110, which they refunded to me. The price of the Jabra has not changed. The Philips is an excellent HA sold at Costco for less than an OTC HA, and I’m getting excellent in person service. I feel very lucky.
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I use my remote mic (equal to the Audio Clip) with the TV, or my laptop, as well as around the neck of a friend. A very handy device! At around $200 this covers a lot of situations.
Are you using the Remote Mic feature of the Audio Clip for the TV, meaning that you play the TV speakers and have the remote mic on the Audio Clip pick up that sound to stream to you? If so, check to see if your TV has Bluetooth support or not. If it does, you can just connect the Audio Clip directly via TV to have the sound streamed directly to your Philips instead of having to use the TV speaker medium over to the Remote Mic to pick up the audio.
Same with the laptop as well. If you laptop has BT support, no need to use the Audio Clip’s remote mic to pick up sounds from the laptop’s speaker.
I do this is well but I use the multi mic instead, which is a very handy device, mostly when I’m out at friends place’s plus I like the fact it has a headphone jack for a laptop (or anything really with a headphone jack output)
Yes I, too, use the ReSound/Jabra Multi-Mic. I love it. 
We’re you able to get Costco to show you how close the REM came to correcting the hearing loss
I don’t know the meaning of REM, but the Costco provider was very impressed at how well my Philips corrected my hearing loss according to the device she used. I did not try the Jabra. Now, with the release of the new Rextons, maybe I would consider them, but I would ask the Costco person, whose judgement I trust, what she thinks.
Real Ear Measurement (REM) is the verification that the sound at the eardrum from the HAs in ear corrects the hearing loss. The AUD’s say they cannot repeat the Hearing Test with the HAs programmed and in the ears to prove the Hearing Aids correct the Hearing Loss.
This is like telling a race car owner that the race engine cannot be run on a dyamo to verify the horsepower is what the engine builder says the engine will produce during a race.
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If a REM type device can’t be used to measure how well HAs work, can we only use our subjective sense to judge? If that is the case, I think my HAs help. Or is my judgement influenced by the REM results?
Of course. At the end of the day, what you think is what really matters.
REM is only a verification step to help you get to your ultimate satisfaction with the device faster. Let’s say if the HAs are off by a bit, and you didn’t do REM, then you’ll find that you’re not happy with the result and you’ll have to continually visit your HCP for many adjustments until you’re happy with it. But with REM, it may get you there faster if adjustments are made to match the target gain curve right up front. You may need to spend less time at your HCP’s office to make less adjustment before you’re happy.
That’s why many folks are willing to forgo REM and DIY because they can experiment very quickly with many different things to arrive at the best result they can get. Some with access to an HCP but are still DIY afterward will do both. They get the REM adjustment done and use it as a starting point to try out various adjustments as necessary to zero in on their most desired results. Eventually, a DIY’er with no REM (who knows what they’re doing) can probably get to their desired result just the same as a DIY’er who starts out with REM adjusted data, it may just take them a little longer, that’s all. But because it’s DIY, it’ll still take them far less time to experiment toward the best result compared to countless office visit to get an HCP to get there simply because the DIY process is far more efficient.
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