Back. My issue has been setup. That’s not the manufacture‘s fault. It was my fault that I stayed with an incompetent care provider. I should have changed much sooner
Perhaps I treated my hearing aids as commodities.
I believe that will work, but you will need to get a Roger X to plug into the EduMic. That may be the more expensive way.
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Hearing aids don’t really fit the definition of a “commodity” IMHO, but regardless, as a wearer for 22+ years, I would not recommend interchanging 2 different brands, for reasons that others have already mentioned. But if you want to try it, go for it! I do think, especially with rechargeables,it’s a good idea to have a backup pair if it fits in your budget. I personally wear Phonak L-90s and have their P-90s as backups.
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I keep coming back.
I think the hearing aid manufacturers’ customer is the care provider.
As a user I don’t have a clue what to buy.
In effect it’s like multi level marketing. Inform the supplier. Influence them. Sell more product
Then the magic happens.
It’s the capable suppliers who change hearing aids by setting them up with skill.
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To me hearing aids is a have to have just like glasses and any prescription drugs.
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Totally agree with you on the redundant rechargeable backups! I need TWO pairs in service if I have to hear at all more than 17 hrs a day. And that does happen from time to time…
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The definition of a commodity in the present context:
- A product or service that is indistinguishable from ones manufactured or provided by competing companies and that therefore sells primarily on the basis of price rather than quality or style.
The answer to your question is… no. Not even close.
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@Torbill Not what I meant by commodity, but I meant a product that is widely available but at varying degrees of performance from manufacturer to manufacturer, and isn’t a luxury product.
In a nutshell, a product that is accessible to most, but with varying performances, if that makes sense.
Not a commodity in sense of trading …
I see. For my part, when I saw the title it took my thoughts to things like soybean futures and Medigap plans, things that are essentially the same in function, features, quality, availability etc and are only distinguished by price. HA have become a market of rapidly evolving, high tech products that want to distinguish themselves by value-add to the customer.
This topic has made me think about the evolution of technology in this marketplace. As I think back to when I first started w/HAs, a decade+ ago, it seems as though they were much more like commodities back then than they are today. In other words the explosion of technology has provided lots of new ways that a participant in this market can distinguish themself from other products. Back then as I recall, advanced connectivity and things like streaming were just getting going and most users on the forum didn’t understand and didn’t want to deal with the newness of it all because they had yet to see the value and mostly wanted better speech in noise or whatever. Now there is this richness of function and choice, and discussion on the forum goes every which way, users being light-years more interested in the various distinguishing features. This is where I was coming from.
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I think I would have had more success if the dispensing audi had shared information with me.
Target has two reports. The hearing specialist I see provides:
- Target User Report
- Target Pro Report
It tells me the features that are activated. It tells me the settings.
The first time he set my hearing aids up he said that the dispensing audi had made two mistakes.
- Wrong domes specified (type and size)
- Right hearing aid could not communicate with the left hearing aid. (Phonak Audeo Paradise P90R’s) This was a critical flaw.
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Read a book where the author said that it cost $100 to make our hearing aids. Forget the title/author’s name.
Trouble is HA’s are sold like a $100 commodity.
They should be sold like a capable medical device that restores an essential sense we all need.
I would volunteer to be part of a focus group. I’d love to help audiologists and hearing aid manufacturers. @Phonak and @Michael_Phonak I’d love to help.
Hello @DaveL not sure what you reference to when saying “sold like a 100$ commodity”.
In another threat I declared that I will not comment on this kind of topic, but hey, I make an exception and I drop my two cents 
It is a difficult field I must admit from enduser perspective. If you find yourself in a situation where the sales process looks like commodity: change the point of sales 
A serious hearing care specialist would never ever sell a real hearing aid like a commodity. They will take care about you as a person and about your needs for better hearing. They will spend a lot of time with you to select and adjust the devices to the max so you can profit the most. On device side ridiculous amount of money is invested when developing real hearing aids, beside production cost, cost for service & repair, etc., so you may ignore these opinions of “100$”, it completely forgets the medical environment we operate in.
Real hearing care should not be confused with devices that claim to be a hearing aid and you can buy them anywhere online for low bugdget.
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Thank you for your response.
My dispensing audiologist helped when we shook hands and parted.
Six months later my hearing aids have been set up by someone else. It’s been two years of terrible stress. I’m part way there.
This forum is a magical place. There are people with wonderful experience who have contributed a lot.
I have had 3 pair of Phonak RIC hearing aids.
My Paradise P90R were not set up properly. There were several reasons.
Thanks for responding. I appreciate it.
David
Back to the original spirit of the question- if I understood it right.
When I was using them, I often felt that if the Apple Airpod Pro 2 were beefed up in the hearing assistance department they would have made a great adjunct to my hearing aids.
Hearing buds for when you’re spending more time streaming than interacting with people, at the beach, in situations where you’re more likely to lose them, and in environments where good noise cancellation is what you want. Also for when you just want a change for a while. Hearing aids for the rest of the time.
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